More On Why WROC (Or A Replacement) Is Important
Riffing off our earlier discussion about the demise of WROC, here’s an image that hopefully does a better job of explaining what I’m talking about.
This is from a presentation I did last week, and the intent was to show how lopsided the playing field is. That icon under the “cross out” symbol is WROC’s progressive talk format.
Despite the right-wing attempts to portray the traditional media as liberal (which we’ve debunked many times here at RT), we’ve seen a more “he said, she said”, or corporate viewpoint. To represent this, I put them astride the dividing line, with megaphones pointing both ways.
(Note: I realize that much of that is due to the corporate nature of the traditional media and that reporters are usually trying to do more with less, and are required to get input from all sides, like from folks that believe that water is wet and also those who don’t, for example. Teach the controversy.)
I also put Monroe County on the Conservative side, since the GOP who control the county have a loud bully pulpit and use it effectively for PR.
This is a work in progress, but I’m curious what you folks think. Am I missing anything?
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NPR leans right. Their one reporter with a clear political outlook is Juan Williams who is openly conservative (he’s on Fox News).
C-Span has *no* commentary. How can they lean one way or the other. That’s like saying a tree or a lake has a political slant.
Exile: Agree on C-SPAN.
Elmer: Agree on MSNBC
On PBS/NPR, media is not only politics. It is a basket of content that appeals to a certain demographic. Whether NPR or PBS has ‘real liberals’ at the moment, they occupy a huge part of the audience share of potential “liberal” or “progressive” media outlets. Any business that has to compete with them will have a hard time, because they are well-funded and non-commercial.
I mean, agree on MSNBC 1/2 way. Scarborough country is not liberal media.
Yes, MSNBC is really liberal (from The Observer):
NPR gets flagged all the time by Media Matters for using right wing talking points but is “liberal” to the neo Birchers
It’s also been off the air for some time, unless you’re referrring to “Morning Joe” which even fewer people are watching. The former Congressman is slowly being shown the door at MSNBC. Matthews, Olbermann, and Maddow don’t express primarily leftward-leaning views, really? At least Matthews and Maddow can carry on a civil debate with their political adversaries and opposing viewpoints. Olbermann’s show is a joke - it’s a back-slap fest of “I am the smartest man in the room.” Of course, he is THE big fish in that ever shrinking pond at MSNBC so I would think the corporate folks will continue to put up with his antics.
I agree that Maddow is better at arguing than Olbermann. I really enjoy her give and take with Pat Buchanan.
I would not describe Matthews or Olbermann as outwardly evincing left-wing views. They’re both idiosyncratic and not to everyone’s tastes, though. I’m not a fan of Matthews myself.
Right, I meant Morning Joe, thanks. As I said, I don’t watch much so I’m mainly asking here.
The Matthews clips I see make me think he’s mainly incoherent, lazy and has a big mouth — not liberal or conservative.
You start off reasonable, then you devolve into this kind of horsesh*t. You really are a moron.
Good point.
So, instead of a letter writing campaign to WROC, why don’t we start a letter writing campaign to another station asking them to make the switch? Here’s a list of our stations. http://www.ontheradio.net/metro/Rochester_NY.aspx
So why didn’t y’all ask the CW & Channel 13 to pick up the Radio program? They’re owned by Clear Channel. Entercom who made the decision and Clear Channel are arch enemies. You had the chance, obviously they were interested enough to haul you in - knock knock, who’s there?
Opportunity.
Maybe make the sizes of the little dudes proportional to listenership / readership?
btp - I’m digging http://www.many-eyes.com - check it out.
this one’s my current fave
http://services.alphaworks.ibm.com/manyeyes/view/SxNb-HsOtha6n3U0hxw0H2-
OT, sorry…
If you put Monroe County on the right shouldn’t the City of Rochester be on the left?
Are there any republican or conservative city council members?
And the mayor’s race is routinely settled at the the primary level.
Publius, good questions, but I don’t see the kind of relentless PR push coming out of City gov’t that I do from the county.
An effort has been started to look at radio stations that might be suitable for that. Also low-power FM is a possibility, although we’d be starting from scratch instead of flipping an established radio station. The challenge is getting enough people together who know about this stuff to actually execute a plan.
Given that this is busy season for canvassing etc, it may be a project that we’ll have critical mass for post-election.
“C-Span has *no* commentary. How can they lean one way or the other.”
Because facts bear witness to progressive ideals.
The CW and WHAM are TV. They would not pick up a radio program.
[...] Meanwhile 950AM is gone, we look as the impact. [...]
LPFM and for that matter, any new FM station is not a possability in Rochester. The most likely tactic would be to buy time on another stations or “buy” a station, the latter would take quite a bit of money in the market to start.