Comments on: I spy with my little eye…surveillance cameras http://rochesterturning.com/2008/05/10/i-spy-with-my-little-eyesurveillance-cameras/ turning the tide upstate Tue, 02 Dec 2008 05:46:51 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.5.1 By: rochesterturning.com: turning the tide upstate http://rochesterturning.com/2008/05/10/i-spy-with-my-little-eyesurveillance-cameras/#comment-146386 rochesterturning.com: turning the tide upstate Tue, 03 Jun 2008 22:44:00 +0000 http://rochesterturning.com/?p=4721#comment-146386 [...] chips in our passports, cameras on the corner and now, big brother is trying to take control of our immune systems. Sorry, but that’s just [...] [...] chips in our passports, cameras on the corner and now, big brother is trying to take control of our immune systems. Sorry, but that’s just [...]

]]> By: Grievous Angel http://rochesterturning.com/2008/05/10/i-spy-with-my-little-eyesurveillance-cameras/#comment-140948 Grievous Angel Sat, 10 May 2008 22:39:55 +0000 http://rochesterturning.com/?p=4721#comment-140948 Thanks for the ideas Chris. I will definitely check them out. Thanks for the ideas Chris. I will definitely check them out.

]]> By: Grievous Angel http://rochesterturning.com/2008/05/10/i-spy-with-my-little-eyesurveillance-cameras/#comment-140947 Grievous Angel Sat, 10 May 2008 22:39:18 +0000 http://rochesterturning.com/?p=4721#comment-140947 I loved the line Mayor Gavin Newsome said about "making residents feel safer" even though the data show the cameras are not actually preventing crime. Feeling safe is important but once you have data indicating you are not actually safer with surveillance cameras, it is strange to continue down that path. I loved the line Mayor Gavin Newsome said about “making residents feel safer” even though the data show the cameras are not actually preventing crime. Feeling safe is important but once you have data indicating you are not actually safer with surveillance cameras, it is strange to continue down that path.

]]> By: realgreecer http://rochesterturning.com/2008/05/10/i-spy-with-my-little-eyesurveillance-cameras/#comment-140924 realgreecer Sat, 10 May 2008 20:42:36 +0000 http://rochesterturning.com/?p=4721#comment-140924 Instead of creating a survelliance society in which more and more policing of conduct is the norm, we should be thinking about ways to create a better society for all. Instead of creating a survelliance society in which more and more policing of conduct is the norm, we should be thinking about ways to create a better society for all.

]]> By: stlo7 http://rochesterturning.com/2008/05/10/i-spy-with-my-little-eyesurveillance-cameras/#comment-140898 stlo7 Sat, 10 May 2008 15:56:27 +0000 http://rochesterturning.com/?p=4721#comment-140898 I hear you and I'm undecided on pervasive use of cameras and surveillance. . There may be some merit and the technology sounds "cool" but... "until the image is “decrypted” by authorized law enforcement personnel" Like the 911 lady who was <a href="http://www.democratandchronicle.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20080508/NEWS01/805080371/1002/NEWS" rel="nofollow">illegally looking up information</a>? Some how I don't think this stuff runs as smoothly as it doesn't on the TV show "24". The thing about the constitution is that is applies equally to everyone - those committing a criminal act and those who are not. Giving up personal rights and freedoms like the one that says the government will stay out of my business without a warrant is important to me. Giving up rights does not make you any freer or more secure in my opinion. But this is about actually solving the problem. Besides - What proactive solutions that solve crime before it starts can be purchased for $ 1 million dollars. Anyone have any ideas? I hear you and I’m undecided on pervasive use of cameras and surveillance. . There may be some merit and the technology sounds “cool” but…

“until the image is “decrypted” by authorized law enforcement personnel” Like the 911 lady who was illegally looking up information? Some how I don’t think this stuff runs as smoothly as it doesn’t on the TV show “24″.

The thing about the constitution is that is applies equally to everyone - those committing a criminal act and those who are not. Giving up personal rights and freedoms like the one that says the government will stay out of my business without a warrant is important to me. Giving up rights does not make you any freer or more secure in my opinion.

But this is about actually solving the problem.

Besides - What proactive solutions that solve crime before it starts can be purchased for $ 1 million dollars.

Anyone have any ideas?

]]> By: stlo7 http://rochesterturning.com/2008/05/10/i-spy-with-my-little-eyesurveillance-cameras/#comment-140895 stlo7 Sat, 10 May 2008 15:52:03 +0000 http://rochesterturning.com/?p=4721#comment-140895 Really nice post. The best bit was that Cameras are reactive vs proactive. Apparently San Francisco does have issues with Cameras <a href="http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?file=/c/a/2008/03/21/MN27VNFET.DTL" rel="nofollow"> here is a link</a>. Really nice post.

The best bit was that Cameras are reactive vs proactive.

Apparently San Francisco does have issues with Cameras here is a link.

]]> By: Chris Karr http://rochesterturning.com/2008/05/10/i-spy-with-my-little-eyesurveillance-cameras/#comment-140892 Chris Karr Sat, 10 May 2008 15:37:58 +0000 http://rochesterturning.com/?p=4721#comment-140892 While I understand the ACLU's view regarding potential privacy issues with municipal surveillance cameras, I would like to point out that the Ontario province of Canada has deployed a terrific and very successful implementation of video surveillance that utilizes an obfuscation technology that will "mask" the facial features of a subject until the image is "decrypted" by authorized law enforcement personnel. In combination with a srong transmission encryption algorithm that prevents hijacking, the "masking" ensures that the identity of the "suspect" cannot be determined by anyone who is not authorized to do. As well, the image storage in each camera system, automatically overwrites every 72 hours. In addition, the Province of Ontario has published statistics that detail how the use of such technology has discouraged crime in the geographies where it has been implemented. The Canadian approach is definitely something that the Duffy Administration should be considering. While I understand the ACLU’s view regarding potential privacy issues with municipal surveillance cameras, I would like to point out that the Ontario province of Canada has deployed a terrific and very successful implementation of video surveillance that utilizes an obfuscation technology that will “mask” the facial features of a subject until the image is “decrypted” by authorized law enforcement personnel. In combination with a srong transmission encryption algorithm that prevents hijacking, the “masking” ensures that the identity of the “suspect” cannot be determined by anyone who is not authorized to do. As well, the image storage in each camera system, automatically overwrites every 72 hours.

In addition, the Province of Ontario has published statistics that detail how the use of such technology has discouraged crime in the geographies where it has been implemented.

The Canadian approach is definitely something that the Duffy Administration should be considering.

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