Comments on: James Dobson Hearts Greece - yes, that James Dobson

By: rochesterturning.com: turning the tide upstate

rochesterturning.com: turning the tide upstate — Tue, 02 Sep 2008 21:07:24 +0000

[...] written about the Alliance Defense Fund before - yes James Dobson is behind it. Their efforts in Greece to ensure no Church / State separation - and then suing Governor Paterson over his decision to direct state agencies to recognize same sex [...]

By: Seth

Seth — Thu, 27 Mar 2008 02:20:32 +0000

Brillliant! I couldn’t agree more. Please blog more! Your humor’s one of the few things I can look forward to in the county where Up is now Down, Left is Right, Love is Hate, and Republicans are Protectors of the Public! Keep fighting the good fight!

By: dennis o'brien

dennis o'brien — Wed, 26 Mar 2008 20:20:14 +0000

really? we must have the same god. my god tells me it is HIS duty to judge, not my duty (or ‘right’ to some of these self righteous jerks). anyway, cheers to you robert for a great post!

By: sconsetmonkey

sconsetmonkey — Wed, 26 Mar 2008 20:09:58 +0000

By: Robert

Robert — Wed, 26 Mar 2008 19:04:43 +0000

I believe in God. But my God is infinitely superior in loving kindness, nonviolence, and acceptance than the Mean-Spirted Clown these guys purport to “worship.” They claim to be full of spiritual understanding, but they treat the world as their toilet.

I’m tolerant, and if people like Dobson/(Auberger?)/Jerry Falwell and their ilk want to worship “God the Schoolyard Bully” due to their extremely limited fund of knowledge about reality and their complete lack of authentic spirituality, that’s ok.

Problem I have have is when they try to push it at me from a building that I paid for with my God-damn taxes. I don’t pay taxes to listen to those punks sermonize. I’m not gonna “leave the room” while they spew their venom. Get thee to Church and get the Hell out of Town Hall.

By: Hep

Hep — Wed, 26 Mar 2008 19:00:29 +0000

very true. and admittedly, my assumption when I read “prayer” on an agenda in a GOP town was in the Jesus context.

Have any RT readers been to another town meeting and have first hand knowledge to share???

By: stlo7

stlo7 — Wed, 26 Mar 2008 18:34:02 +0000

fair enough. bad and wrong - are my beliefs.

But - since all you have is an agenda and not actual words of the prayer we really don’t know what was said.

By: itchy

itchy — Wed, 26 Mar 2008 18:29:47 +0000

What he said.

By: winsmith06

winsmith06 — Wed, 26 Mar 2008 18:23:33 +0000

here’s a bit of breaking news. The d and c is reporting that Mark Camarata has testified that Assessor Charles Schwab arraigned the $2,000,000 contribution that Kodak made to the town of Greece that paid for a lot of the community center.

Greece residents have wondered about this connection for years.
“Niccolo’s lawyer, Chad D Siegel, tried during his cross-examination of Camarata to equate Greece’s demand for $2 million to bribery”

of course not just a gift.

By: Hep

Hep — Wed, 26 Mar 2008 18:17:57 +0000

nondenominational prayer may be “legal”, but I believe “bad” and “wrong” are subjective terms in this context.

By: jiminybizbo

jiminybizbo — Wed, 26 Mar 2008 17:01:13 +0000

“You’re more than just a legislator, you ARE my special guest!”

By: realgreecer

realgreecer — Wed, 26 Mar 2008 16:57:24 +0000

I have looked at the Alliance web site and it is a piece of work.

I think many in the general community would want to know exactly whom Greece has chosen to defend them
I’m sure many upstate republicans would not want to be associated with the Alliance. In addition to other problems some of their directors seem to have an extreme anti-gay agenda

If he had any conscience “congressman” auberger would be ashamed too.

By: realgreecer

realgreecer — Wed, 26 Mar 2008 16:50:41 +0000

i have looked at the alliance web site they are a nasty piece of work. it would be useful to publicize just who they are and what they stand for,

I would imagine that many local republicans would be a shamed to be associated with them.

very hard right ideology.

If “congressman” Auberger had a conscience he would be ashamed too

By: ladkiddo

ladkiddo — Wed, 26 Mar 2008 16:38:46 +0000

The circumstances were: 1)Meeting was opened with a prayer (after the pledge of allegiance) 2) The Pastor was Danielle’s pastor and nothing was said for the other Freshman Legislators.

By: stlo7

stlo7 — Wed, 26 Mar 2008 16:30:21 +0000

So, If this is true did they do the same for Beebe? Gumina? or the other guy whose name escapes me at the moment? That would be offensive

Exactly what were the circumstances?