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	<title>Comments on: Hillary&#8217;s secret admirer</title>
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	<description>turning the tide upstate</description>
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		<title>By: ladkiddo</title>
		<link>http://rochesterturning.com/2008/01/12/hilarys-secret-admirer/#comment-102745</link>
		<dc:creator>ladkiddo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 13 Jan 2008 16:00:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You may be absolutely right.  Or, this could be a win-win situation for Newt.  If she wins the nomination, but not the presidency-win for Newt.  If she wins both the nomination and the presidency-win for Newt.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You may be absolutely right.  Or, this could be a win-win situation for Newt.  If she wins the nomination, but not the presidency-win for Newt.  If she wins both the nomination and the presidency-win for Newt.</p>
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		<title>By: BurbProgressive</title>
		<link>http://rochesterturning.com/2008/01/12/hilarys-secret-admirer/#comment-102726</link>
		<dc:creator>BurbProgressive</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 13 Jan 2008 15:20:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Call me cynical, but I suspect that Newt's not on the Clinton bandwagon. After all, he was the one that led the charge for Bill's impeachment in the first place, and even recently has &lt;a href="http://www.lavalane.org/blava/2006/12/gingrich-defends-clinton-impeachment.html" rel="nofollow"&gt;defended that impeachment&lt;/a&gt;.

I think the Republicans want to run against Hillary, they view her as a wedge candidate that they can use to rile up their &lt;a href="http://rochesterturning.com/2008/01/11/no-female-presidents-soft-hate-from-a-dc-reader/" rel="nofollow"&gt; woman-hating, Clinton-hating base which sadly is all too prevalent&lt;/a&gt;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Call me cynical, but I suspect that Newt&#8217;s not on the Clinton bandwagon. After all, he was the one that led the charge for Bill&#8217;s impeachment in the first place, and even recently has <a href="http://www.lavalane.org/blava/2006/12/gingrich-defends-clinton-impeachment.html" rel="nofollow">defended that impeachment</a>.</p>
<p>I think the Republicans want to run against Hillary, they view her as a wedge candidate that they can use to rile up their <a href="http://rochesterturning.com/2008/01/11/no-female-presidents-soft-hate-from-a-dc-reader/" rel="nofollow"> woman-hating, Clinton-hating base which sadly is all too prevalent</a>.</p>
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		<title>By: ladkiddo</title>
		<link>http://rochesterturning.com/2008/01/12/hilarys-secret-admirer/#comment-102568</link>
		<dc:creator>ladkiddo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 13 Jan 2008 03:06:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Good point +x3. HereÃƒÂ¢Ã¢â€šÂ¬Ã¢â€žÂ¢s a little tidbit of what went on:

    Not only did Gingrich vote for NAFTA, he was an active participant in using a lame duck session of a Democratic Congress in 12/94 to get the WTO quickly approved before newly elected Republicans, who had swept the 11/94 elections, were sworn into office. At that time, Republicans tended to vote in favor of U.S. sovereignty and against entangling the U.S. is complex trade deals that were potentially destructive to the interests of the American worker and American interests.

    What other diabolical schemes could Newt be conjuring with another Clinton in office, I wonder?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good point +x3. HereÃƒÂ¢Ã¢â€šÂ¬Ã¢â€žÂ¢s a little tidbit of what went on:</p>
<p>    Not only did Gingrich vote for NAFTA, he was an active participant in using a lame duck session of a Democratic Congress in 12/94 to get the WTO quickly approved before newly elected Republicans, who had swept the 11/94 elections, were sworn into office. At that time, Republicans tended to vote in favor of U.S. sovereignty and against entangling the U.S. is complex trade deals that were potentially destructive to the interests of the American worker and American interests.</p>
<p>    What other diabolical schemes could Newt be conjuring with another Clinton in office, I wonder?</p>
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		<title>By: whtwtrdood</title>
		<link>http://rochesterturning.com/2008/01/12/hilarys-secret-admirer/#comment-102563</link>
		<dc:creator>whtwtrdood</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 13 Jan 2008 02:57:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>"NAFTA was able to secure passage after Bill Clinton made its passage a major legislative priority in 1993. Since the agreement had been signed by Bush under his fast-track prerogative, Clinton did not alter the original agreement, but complemented it with the aforementioned NAAEC and NAALC. After intense political debate and the negotiation of these side agreements, the U.S. House passed NAFTA by 234-200 (132 Republicans and 102 Democrats voting in favor."

I remember President Clinton speaking about the importance of this trade agreement on numerous occasions prior to it's passage so I really think far more credit should go to him.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;NAFTA was able to secure passage after Bill Clinton made its passage a major legislative priority in 1993. Since the agreement had been signed by Bush under his fast-track prerogative, Clinton did not alter the original agreement, but complemented it with the aforementioned NAAEC and NAALC. After intense political debate and the negotiation of these side agreements, the U.S. House passed NAFTA by 234-200 (132 Republicans and 102 Democrats voting in favor.&#8221;</p>
<p>I remember President Clinton speaking about the importance of this trade agreement on numerous occasions prior to it&#8217;s passage so I really think far more credit should go to him.</p>
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		<title>By: +++</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 13 Jan 2008 02:04:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Maybe we are under estimating Newt... misunderstood, but with the heart of gold?  He seems like a nice enough guy and he tried and...
Wait, isn't that that moment of hesitation, that doubt, that got us the Contract with America?  We have already seen Newt's vision of "Real Change".  Hows everybody enjoying NAFTA?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Maybe we are under estimating Newt&#8230; misunderstood, but with the heart of gold?  He seems like a nice enough guy and he tried and&#8230;<br />
Wait, isn&#8217;t that that moment of hesitation, that doubt, that got us the Contract with America?  We have already seen Newt&#8217;s vision of &#8220;Real Change&#8221;.  Hows everybody enjoying NAFTA?</p>
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