Stainton has enough signatures to get on the Ballot
Mr. Stainton gathered enough signatures - our sources say. He is on the ballot. He needed 1500 and has 1592.
However - his signatures are being challenged by Minarik. Minarik has until Friday to specify exactly what he is challenging. Basically, he needs to provide the details to exactly what about petitions he is challenging.
More details as we know them.
Time to read up on the challege process.
Remember - Joe Rittler and the absentee votes not counted in the Parma race?
Well, I expect a lot of scrutiny on Minarik’s part and we will get to discover of the difference between spirt and letter of the law.
remember the arcane Ohio law that specified the weight of the paper? I need to find a link.
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This is great news. Give Minarik something to occupy his time, it’s a good thing.
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From what I have seen in the past the petition judges seem to be as lenient as possible when allowing petitions to stand.
If Stainton has 1500 valid petitions in the “spirit” of the law I imagine he will make it onto the ballot, but with only a 5% margin of error that may be tough.
seeing as how most people aren’t too familiar with the petition process, you get a lot of people signing that shouldn’t be. therefore, it is always suggested that you collect at least double what you need to keep yourself out of the challenging danger zone. hopefully he and his volunteers were very strict when collecting their signatures.
The spirit and letter comment was not meant ot excuse erroneous signatures. I couldn’t sign his petition because I signed another therefore my signature, as I understood the rules, it would be invalid. Assuming this is true (can’t sign two different ballots for County Exec) and had I signed staintons petition then I have no problem tossing my signature off of Stainton’s ballot.
I’m really talking about the really small details or subjective interpretation. Or like the stuff in Ohio with the specific weight of paper.
Part of the problem with advertising a location for signatures - Minarik probably sent his minions down to sign at the Farmers Market intentionally knowing they would soil the attempt, and make it easy to identify the “offenders”.
92 is too tight. My money says he’s off, and probably legitimately so, since there are far more than 92 people who will sign whatever’s put in front of them even if they’re not eligible to sign. Too bad, because there needs to be a challenger in this race.
I probably have a lower tolerance for partisanship than others here, but let me ask a question: why does Minarik’s name even come up in this discussion? If you want to be angry at someone, be angry at the MCDC, not the Republicans. And I don’t mean “slightly irritated”. I mean very, very angry. The lack of a candidate in this race is pure horseshit. It reflects a deeply dysfunctional party that needs to be completely revamped. Shouldn’t the progressives be leading the charge here?
Minarik’s name is mentioned because he is challenging petitions. The Dems are not fielding a candidate. That horse has sailed or the ship is dead. So, the Dems failed to field a candidate but there is Stainton and I’m told one other (need to verify first).
I can’t speak for all who read but anger at Minarik is not part of this conversation.
Re whether or not 92 is enough. I just reported the details. I suppose it depends on the quality of signatures. We will see on Friday.
Minarik runs the Republican party and thus the county. And I think that many voters would be less inclined to vote Republican if they knew this. I think his name needs to come up in any discussion of county politics. That’s not about partisanship — quite the opposite, I think that the Monroe County Republican party has lots of good people, it’s just that Minarik is not one of them.
Though you’re right there’s no reason to blame any of this on him. I certainly agree with that. But I can’t fault anyone for saying he’ll be tough about signatures.
Stlo: Yes, that particular ship has sailed, but what I’m waiting for is Morelle being tossed overboard. I don’t see any hint of that happening.
BTW - I’m not challenging your reporting, just noting that 92 is far too few. It should be hundreds more. Stainton will not make the ballot.
Exile: The way people learn that is for a challenger to articulate it. And they need a lever to pull to change their vote.
Overall, Minarik might be a bad guy. In this particular case, he’s shooting fish in a barrel because the Democrats checked out from this race. Let’s face it, you wouldn’t be wasting electrons and keystrokes on Mr Stainton if it weren’t for the lack of a Democratic challenger.
I recognize I’m beating a dead horse here, and I realize this thread may not be the place to do it, but Jiminy God, I want you guys to roast the MCDC leadership on a spit, daily, with extra seasoning.
(Sorry dear.)
I get it - really. Yes 92 isn’t 920. But it is what it is.
So going into the 2007 elections the expectation is to toss Morrelle overboard? The Dem Machine here in Monroe County won’t do that prior to an election cycle and I’m not sure it should.
I’m disappointed in the lack of a Dem candidate. There isn’t one - time to move on to the November elections.
I believe there is change coming albeit slowly and below the radar. I’m OK with that.
So going into the 2007 elections the expectation is to toss Morrelle overboard? The Dem Machine here in Monroe County won’t do that prior to an election cycle and I’m not sure it should.
You’re right — the day after the election will be good enough. But that shouldn’t keep you guys from critiquing Morelle and suggesting replacements. I think once-a-week should be sufficient.
Not faulting them for saying it at all. He will be tough. That’s his job. He’s doing his job, his Democratic counterpart isn’t, and that’s why folks like Ted Nixon are facing a tougher battle than they would otherwise.
I will quit bitching now. Thanks.
Well - Now there are plenty of other opportunities to pass on our observations in Monroe County
Well, I’m happy to wait til the election is over. Let’s see what happens in the County Lej.
Well, there’s always the write in ballot if there is any grass roots efforts from the Substainability party. Doubtful though since I only see the same few posting to these blogs. Can’t Stainton buy a few tee-shirts. I see Maggie shirts everywhere but no Maggie.
First Stainton needs to get on the ballot (done) and past any challenges. Once that happen s then we will see what happens.