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	<title>Comments on: Local Church Shilling for Creationism</title>
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	<description>turning the tide upstate</description>
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		<title>By: WNYMedia.net :: Open To The Public</title>
		<link>http://rochesterturning.com/2007/08/27/local-church-shilling-for-creationism/#comment-56525</link>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Aug 2007 14:36:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Rochester Turning takes a closer look at a fundamentalist church in Pittsford, and finds some disturbing messages&#160;spread, as ever, by an incompetent press. &#160;&#160; [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Rochester Turning takes a closer look at a fundamentalist church in Pittsford, and finds some disturbing messages&nbsp;spread, as ever, by an incompetent press. &nbsp;&nbsp; [...]</p>
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		<title>By: The Ghost of H.S.T.</title>
		<link>http://rochesterturning.com/2007/08/27/local-church-shilling-for-creationism/#comment-56181</link>
		<dc:creator>The Ghost of H.S.T.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Aug 2007 00:53:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You are absolutely correct. You must also consider that the headline, jump and jump header all contained the word "debate". I am at fault for not grasping the context of the "ad", however, I pulled the paper from my mailbox an hour before the event and made way to Pittsford for the event. The writer did contact me and said his use of the word debate was to reference the bigger picture not really the local issue. I also imagined a three part series to include a presentation form each side with the third as a forum for both sides to address each other. Any way you cut it this was an ad. Hot topic for a previously free paper draws in the quarters. 

To Roth's credit I feel he did a good job with his blogging story.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You are absolutely correct. You must also consider that the headline, jump and jump header all contained the word &#8220;debate&#8221;. I am at fault for not grasping the context of the &#8220;ad&#8221;, however, I pulled the paper from my mailbox an hour before the event and made way to Pittsford for the event. The writer did contact me and said his use of the word debate was to reference the bigger picture not really the local issue. I also imagined a three part series to include a presentation form each side with the third as a forum for both sides to address each other. Any way you cut it this was an ad. Hot topic for a previously free paper draws in the quarters. </p>
<p>To Roth&#8217;s credit I feel he did a good job with his blogging story.</p>
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		<title>By: bythepeople</title>
		<link>http://rochesterturning.com/2007/08/27/local-church-shilling-for-creationism/#comment-55991</link>
		<dc:creator>bythepeople</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Aug 2007 02:51:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Exactly-- look at the 5 pillars of Islam, or just about anything in Buddhism, and you find progressive values.  My point was that it's funny how a progressive atheist has more in common with what christ taught than most of the right-wing christians.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Exactly&#8211; look at the 5 pillars of Islam, or just about anything in Buddhism, and you find progressive values.  My point was that it&#8217;s funny how a progressive atheist has more in common with what christ taught than most of the right-wing christians.</p>
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		<title>By: stlo7</title>
		<link>http://rochesterturning.com/2007/08/27/local-church-shilling-for-creationism/#comment-55989</link>
		<dc:creator>stlo7</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Aug 2007 02:43:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>????   I don't get it.
  
This specific thread about atheists and the religion know as 'ditto'. 

I would venture to say that most religions harbor progressive values - Religion, any religion, doesn't "own" the values - they are simply part of what makes up the religion.

I'm really unclear as you what you mean here.  

If I had to guess - you are saying that Right wing theocrats don't really espouse true progressive values - That statement is independent  of a specific religion.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>????   I don&#8217;t get it.</p>
<p>This specific thread about atheists and the religion know as &#8216;ditto&#8217;. </p>
<p>I would venture to say that most religions harbor progressive values - Religion, any religion, doesn&#8217;t &#8220;own&#8221; the values - they are simply part of what makes up the religion.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m really unclear as you what you mean here.  </p>
<p>If I had to guess - you are saying that Right wing theocrats don&#8217;t really espouse true progressive values - That statement is independent  of a specific religion.</p>
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		<title>By: Kyle Robinson</title>
		<link>http://rochesterturning.com/2007/08/27/local-church-shilling-for-creationism/#comment-55988</link>
		<dc:creator>Kyle Robinson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Aug 2007 02:21:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>long time, first time.

I fished out a copy of that paper from the recycling bin and noticed that the phrase "lecture series" was in the subtitle and used multiple times in the article too.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>long time, first time.</p>
<p>I fished out a copy of that paper from the recycling bin and noticed that the phrase &#8220;lecture series&#8221; was in the subtitle and used multiple times in the article too.</p>
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		<title>By: bythepeople</title>
		<link>http://rochesterturning.com/2007/08/27/local-church-shilling-for-creationism/#comment-55986</link>
		<dc:creator>bythepeople</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Aug 2007 01:48:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oddly, as a progressive, your values (&#038; demonstration of them) are more in line with Christianity than most of the right-wing theocrats in this country.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oddly, as a progressive, your values (&#038; demonstration of them) are more in line with Christianity than most of the right-wing theocrats in this country.</p>
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		<title>By: DragonFlyEye</title>
		<link>http://rochesterturning.com/2007/08/27/local-church-shilling-for-creationism/#comment-55979</link>
		<dc:creator>DragonFlyEye</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Aug 2007 01:28:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As for me, I'm a happy go lucky pagan, thank you.  Yes, 911 was the fault of myself and a couple gay guys.  Whoops.

But I still maintain that &lt;a href="http://youtube.com/watch?v=GUrqaJZH-04" rel="nofollow"&gt;Jesus was way cool&lt;/a&gt;.  (link courtesy of my way-cool wife)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As for me, I&#8217;m a happy go lucky pagan, thank you.  Yes, 911 was the fault of myself and a couple gay guys.  Whoops.</p>
<p>But I still maintain that <a href="http://youtube.com/watch?v=GUrqaJZH-04" rel="nofollow">Jesus was way cool</a>.  (link courtesy of my way-cool wife)</p>
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		<title>By: itchy</title>
		<link>http://rochesterturning.com/2007/08/27/local-church-shilling-for-creationism/#comment-55962</link>
		<dc:creator>itchy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 27 Aug 2007 23:36:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>ditto</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>ditto</p>
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		<title>By: The Ghost of H.S.T.</title>
		<link>http://rochesterturning.com/2007/08/27/local-church-shilling-for-creationism/#comment-55953</link>
		<dc:creator>The Ghost of H.S.T.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 27 Aug 2007 22:56:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In the interest of full disclosure, I am an atheist.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In the interest of full disclosure, I am an atheist.</p>
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		<title>By: Dennis O'Brien</title>
		<link>http://rochesterturning.com/2007/08/27/local-church-shilling-for-creationism/#comment-55925</link>
		<dc:creator>Dennis O'Brien</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 27 Aug 2007 17:49:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>especially in pittsford. you can fool them easier than most due to their keeping up with the jones' lifestyle.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>especially in pittsford. you can fool them easier than most due to their keeping up with the jones&#8217; lifestyle.</p>
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