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	<title>Comments on: D&#038;C Editorial Board wilts under the truth.</title>
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		<title>By: stlo7</title>
		<link>http://rochesterturning.com/2007/08/10/dc-editorial-board-wilts-under-the-truth/#comment-53677</link>
		<dc:creator>stlo7</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 11 Aug 2007 16:38:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This was the Friday Morning paper D&#038;C. August 10, 2007</description>
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		<title>By: Paige</title>
		<link>http://rochesterturning.com/2007/08/10/dc-editorial-board-wilts-under-the-truth/#comment-53673</link>
		<dc:creator>Paige</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 11 Aug 2007 16:30:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>And the citation for this scanned portion of the D&#38;C is ... ??</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And the citation for this scanned portion of the D&amp;C is &#8230; ??</p>
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		<title>By: Itchy</title>
		<link>http://rochesterturning.com/2007/08/10/dc-editorial-board-wilts-under-the-truth/#comment-53593</link>
		<dc:creator>Itchy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 11 Aug 2007 03:01:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You know what part I like?

NOT IN JEST

That part.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You know what part I like?</p>
<p>NOT IN JEST</p>
<p>That part.</p>
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		<title>By: stlo7</title>
		<link>http://rochesterturning.com/2007/08/10/dc-editorial-board-wilts-under-the-truth/#comment-53588</link>
		<dc:creator>stlo7</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 11 Aug 2007 01:50:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks itchy....

Like the title of the the post says...

The D&#038;C editorial board wilts under the Truth.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks itchy&#8230;.</p>
<p>Like the title of the the post says&#8230;</p>
<p>The D&#038;C editorial board wilts under the Truth.</p>
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		<title>By: Itchy</title>
		<link>http://rochesterturning.com/2007/08/10/dc-editorial-board-wilts-under-the-truth/#comment-53586</link>
		<dc:creator>Itchy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 11 Aug 2007 00:54:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I got a little sick of the he blogged she blogged did not did too...

Just to be perfectly clear, this is a scan of what was printed in the dead-tree newspaper.  Click for the full article.
&lt;a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/itchy_in_rochester/1076870780/" title="Photo Sharing" rel="nofollow"&gt;&lt;img src="http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1301/1076871174_a2544012fa_m.jpg" width="240" height="200" alt="not in jest" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I got a little sick of the he blogged she blogged did not did too&#8230;</p>
<p>Just to be perfectly clear, this is a scan of what was printed in the dead-tree newspaper.  Click for the full article.<br />
<a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/itchy_in_rochester/1076870780/" title="Photo Sharing" rel="nofollow"><img src="http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1301/1076871174_a2544012fa_m.jpg" width="240" height="200" alt="not in jest" /></a></p>
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		<title>By: dj_paige</title>
		<link>http://rochesterturning.com/2007/08/10/dc-editorial-board-wilts-under-the-truth/#comment-53555</link>
		<dc:creator>dj_paige</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Aug 2007 18:05:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>ÃƒÂ¢Ã¢â€šÂ¬Ã…â€œdonÃƒÂ¢Ã¢â€šÂ¬Ã¢â€žÂ¢t beat a dead horse in the middle of a streamÃƒÂ¢Ã¢â€šÂ¬Ã‚Â -- Neweyes, you sound suspiciously like Tom Tobin...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>ÃƒÂ¢Ã¢â€šÂ¬Ã…â€œdonÃƒÂ¢Ã¢â€šÂ¬Ã¢â€žÂ¢t beat a dead horse in the middle of a streamÃƒÂ¢Ã¢â€šÂ¬Ã‚Â &#8212; Neweyes, you sound suspiciously like Tom Tobin&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: neweyes</title>
		<link>http://rochesterturning.com/2007/08/10/dc-editorial-board-wilts-under-the-truth/#comment-53550</link>
		<dc:creator>neweyes</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Aug 2007 17:26:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>and by the way, stlo7, it was a wonderfully mixed pair of metaphors, correct or not: "towing the line as they wipe the egg off their face."  Kudos.  As I always say, don't beat a dead horse in the middle of a stream.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>and by the way, stlo7, it was a wonderfully mixed pair of metaphors, correct or not: &#8220;towing the line as they wipe the egg off their face.&#8221;  Kudos.  As I always say, don&#8217;t beat a dead horse in the middle of a stream.</p>
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		<title>By: neweyes</title>
		<link>http://rochesterturning.com/2007/08/10/dc-editorial-board-wilts-under-the-truth/#comment-53549</link>
		<dc:creator>neweyes</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Aug 2007 17:23:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Itchy - 
ah, silly me.  In my anxiety over and preoccupation with the drill sergeant I missed the track and field context altogether, which makes even more sense, while still being entirely in the spirit of the usage, as your googled reference puts it: not straying beyond or across "a rigidly defined boundary."  ehhhhhxcellent.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Itchy -<br />
ah, silly me.  In my anxiety over and preoccupation with the drill sergeant I missed the track and field context altogether, which makes even more sense, while still being entirely in the spirit of the usage, as your googled reference puts it: not straying beyond or across &#8220;a rigidly defined boundary.&#8221;  ehhhhhxcellent.</p>
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		<title>By: stlo7</title>
		<link>http://rochesterturning.com/2007/08/10/dc-editorial-board-wilts-under-the-truth/#comment-53546</link>
		<dc:creator>stlo7</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Aug 2007 16:47:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Tough Crowd.  :-)

Permit me to have a little fun here (actually neweyes you are probably correct I missed it.  Here are some quick links I found. &lt;a href="http://www.worldwidewords.org/qa/qa-toe2.htm" rel="nofollow"&gt;here &lt;/a&gt;and &lt;a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Toe_the_line" rel="nofollow"&gt;here&lt;/a&gt;)

So - if I'm the D&#038;C editorial board - I say - Well neweyes, it was really a vague reference/pun to refer to one falling in line - "being towed" like pulled along - like sting of packet boats on the Erie canal - or being led like sheep, through a chicken coop where egg gets on the D&#038;C Ed board's face.

Neweyes simply says (as does everyone else reading this) WTF which means, because we would not want to contribute to a coursening of the culture, "What the gosh darn".

Now it is time to blame Bill Gates and spell check (the mind reading function in spell check is disabled).

If that doesn't work I find a way to shoot the messenger (sorry neweyes the comments section isn't big enough for both of us) .  

All the while hoping this comment scrolls off the page into the same obvilion as the D&#038;C article archives.  

Which of course is one of the differences between  the MSM and Blogs - Blogs are living breathing interactice experience.  Newspapers - well they are printed on dead trees.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Tough Crowd.  <img src='http://rochesterturning.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>Permit me to have a little fun here (actually neweyes you are probably correct I missed it.  Here are some quick links I found. <a href="http://www.worldwidewords.org/qa/qa-toe2.htm" rel="nofollow">here </a>and <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Toe_the_line" rel="nofollow">here</a>)</p>
<p>So - if I&#8217;m the D&#038;C editorial board - I say - Well neweyes, it was really a vague reference/pun to refer to one falling in line - &#8220;being towed&#8221; like pulled along - like sting of packet boats on the Erie canal - or being led like sheep, through a chicken coop where egg gets on the D&#038;C Ed board&#8217;s face.</p>
<p>Neweyes simply says (as does everyone else reading this) WTF which means, because we would not want to contribute to a coursening of the culture, &#8220;What the gosh darn&#8221;.</p>
<p>Now it is time to blame Bill Gates and spell check (the mind reading function in spell check is disabled).</p>
<p>If that doesn&#8217;t work I find a way to shoot the messenger (sorry neweyes the comments section isn&#8217;t big enough for both of us) .  </p>
<p>All the while hoping this comment scrolls off the page into the same obvilion as the D&#038;C article archives.  </p>
<p>Which of course is one of the differences between  the MSM and Blogs - Blogs are living breathing interactice experience.  Newspapers - well they are printed on dead trees.</p>
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		<title>By: Itchy</title>
		<link>http://rochesterturning.com/2007/08/10/dc-editorial-board-wilts-under-the-truth/#comment-53544</link>
		<dc:creator>Itchy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Aug 2007 16:46:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I've always used "toe", and assumed uses of "tow" to be incorrect.

For what it's worth, google returns this:
http://www.grammartips.homestead.com/toetheline.html</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve always used &#8220;toe&#8221;, and assumed uses of &#8220;tow&#8221; to be incorrect.</p>
<p>For what it&#8217;s worth, google returns this:<br />
<a href="http://www.grammartips.homestead.com/toetheline.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.grammartips.homestead.com/toetheline.html</a></p>
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		<title>By: Rottenchester</title>
		<link>http://rochesterturning.com/2007/08/10/dc-editorial-board-wilts-under-the-truth/#comment-53542</link>
		<dc:creator>Rottenchester</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Aug 2007 16:27:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Stlo7:  I agree that the D&#38;C is going for a lose/lose outcome here.  And your headline is fine - I'm mainly frustrated that they're so impervious to criticism.

Itchy:  We are going to see a gradual decline in the D&#38;C.  It will be sad to watch, but I hope that other media will take up the slack.  People without computers and Internet connections will slowly be marginalized.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Stlo7:  I agree that the D&amp;C is going for a lose/lose outcome here.  And your headline is fine - I&#8217;m mainly frustrated that they&#8217;re so impervious to criticism.</p>
<p>Itchy:  We are going to see a gradual decline in the D&amp;C.  It will be sad to watch, but I hope that other media will take up the slack.  People without computers and Internet connections will slowly be marginalized.</p>
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		<title>By: neweyes</title>
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		<dc:creator>neweyes</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Aug 2007 16:21:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>off-topic etomology

Would someone please correct me if necessary?  I always thought that the expression was "toe the line," as in a line on the ground, which one puts one's toes on right after the drill sargeant bites your head off.  It seems to have morphed, like duck/duct tape, into an apparently naval expression, as in a "tow line."  In which case, one wouldn't be towing the line, but using the line to tow something else, like a dinghy.  As in, "towing the dinghy," which makes more sense than "towing the line" -- in contrast, "toeing the line" always made more sense to me, and I thought was correct -- so to speak.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>off-topic etomology</p>
<p>Would someone please correct me if necessary?  I always thought that the expression was &#8220;toe the line,&#8221; as in a line on the ground, which one puts one&#8217;s toes on right after the drill sargeant bites your head off.  It seems to have morphed, like duck/duct tape, into an apparently naval expression, as in a &#8220;tow line.&#8221;  In which case, one wouldn&#8217;t be towing the line, but using the line to tow something else, like a dinghy.  As in, &#8220;towing the dinghy,&#8221; which makes more sense than &#8220;towing the line&#8221; &#8212; in contrast, &#8220;toeing the line&#8221; always made more sense to me, and I thought was correct &#8212; so to speak.</p>
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		<title>By: tom</title>
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		<dc:creator>tom</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Aug 2007 16:10:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for your reporting!</description>
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		<title>By: stlo7</title>
		<link>http://rochesterturning.com/2007/08/10/dc-editorial-board-wilts-under-the-truth/#comment-53534</link>
		<dc:creator>stlo7</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Aug 2007 15:54:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well,  Best headline I could come up with at the time.  I liked the timeline you did.  The D&#038;C is entitled to their own opinions not their own facts.
 
The D&#038;C and the rest of the MSM sees the news related blogs or at a threat.  Something to be controlled or marginalized as opposed to what they really are part of a symbionic relationship.   If the media actually was critical of the keepers of power or actually reported the news - political blogs might look entirely different.

The D&#038;C etc attitude of  "worse you look better we look" fits a marginalization strategy.  Part of what I hope to discuss later.

Nevertheless - in the this case the Lawrence and Tobin are backpeddling so fast that they are tripping over themselves.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well,  Best headline I could come up with at the time.  I liked the timeline you did.  The D&#038;C is entitled to their own opinions not their own facts.</p>
<p>The D&#038;C and the rest of the MSM sees the news related blogs or at a threat.  Something to be controlled or marginalized as opposed to what they really are part of a symbionic relationship.   If the media actually was critical of the keepers of power or actually reported the news - political blogs might look entirely different.</p>
<p>The D&#038;C etc attitude of  &#8220;worse you look better we look&#8221; fits a marginalization strategy.  Part of what I hope to discuss later.</p>
<p>Nevertheless - in the this case the Lawrence and Tobin are backpeddling so fast that they are tripping over themselves.</p>
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		<title>By: Itchy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Itchy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Aug 2007 15:51:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That would be too bad.  Many, many people still get the majority of their news from the D&#038;C.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That would be too bad.  Many, many people still get the majority of their news from the D&#038;C.</p>
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