Comments on: Another candidate for County Exec http://rochesterturning.com/2007/07/31/another-candidate-for-county-exec/ turning the tide upstate Thu, 08 Jan 2009 20:24:47 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.5.1 By: Itchy http://rochesterturning.com/2007/07/31/another-candidate-for-county-exec/#comment-52107 Itchy Thu, 02 Aug 2007 02:36:38 +0000 http://rochesterturning.com/2007/07/31/another-candidate-for-county-exec/#comment-52107 Turnout is going to be lower on both sides, sillies! You're talking about elections that are going to be decided by only a couple hundred people. It's base-on-base, us against them, a ground game. It's about getting rides to the polls at this point... Turnout is going to be lower on both sides, sillies! You’re talking about elections that are going to be decided by only a couple hundred people. It’s base-on-base, us against them, a ground game. It’s about getting rides to the polls at this point…

]]> By: Andrea http://rochesterturning.com/2007/07/31/another-candidate-for-county-exec/#comment-52081 Andrea Thu, 02 Aug 2007 00:36:23 +0000 http://rochesterturning.com/2007/07/31/another-candidate-for-county-exec/#comment-52081 I'm not understanding you. I said that Republican turnout is always high. So, I'm disagreeing with Minarik. What are you getting on my case about? I’m not understanding you. I said that Republican turnout is always high. So, I’m disagreeing with Minarik. What are you getting on my case about?

]]> By: Jiminy Bizbo http://rochesterturning.com/2007/07/31/another-candidate-for-county-exec/#comment-52002 Jiminy Bizbo Wed, 01 Aug 2007 16:22:26 +0000 http://rochesterturning.com/2007/07/31/another-candidate-for-county-exec/#comment-52002 OK, maybe you (and only you?) will believe Minerik? County GOP Chairman Stephen Minarik said the challenge for Republicans will be getting voters to the polls in a year without a competitive county executive race. Lower voter turnout could hurt Republicans in suburban races, he said. "We will have to spend far more money on turning people out to vote than we probably would have," Minarik said. Democrats are also without a state Supreme Court candidate. So when voters go to the polls, unless Democrats get a judicial candidate by next month, the party will have the first two ballot lines blank. The first Democratic candidate would be Sid Farber, a former Republican running for Family Court judge against Republican Joe Nesser. To combat lower voter turnout, Republicans plan to promote a Taxpayer Protection Act that they approved earlier this year. The measure, which Republicans got on the ballot by gathering enough signature petitions, would cap nonmandated county spending at no more than the rate of inflation. http://www.democratandchronicle.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20070801/NEWS01/708010318/1002/NEWS OK, maybe you (and only you?) will believe Minerik?

County GOP Chairman Stephen Minarik said the challenge for Republicans will be getting voters to the polls in a year without a competitive county executive race. Lower voter turnout could hurt Republicans in suburban races, he said.

“We will have to spend far more money on turning people out to vote than we probably would have,” Minarik said.

Democrats are also without a state Supreme Court candidate. So when voters go to the polls, unless Democrats get a judicial candidate by next month, the party will have the first two ballot lines blank. The first Democratic candidate would be Sid Farber, a former Republican running for Family Court judge against Republican Joe Nesser.

To combat lower voter turnout, Republicans plan to promote a Taxpayer Protection Act that they approved earlier this year. The measure, which Republicans got on the ballot by gathering enough signature petitions, would cap nonmandated county spending at no more than the rate of inflation.

http://www.democratandchronicle.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20070801/NEWS01/708010318/1002/NEWS

]]> By: bythepeople http://rochesterturning.com/2007/07/31/another-candidate-for-county-exec/#comment-51997 bythepeople Wed, 01 Aug 2007 16:04:30 +0000 http://rochesterturning.com/2007/07/31/another-candidate-for-county-exec/#comment-51997 Indeed. Anyone have any hard evidence on the correlation between top-ticket races and turnout? Regardless, I agree, it's an unfortunate situation. Now let's see what we can do with it. Indeed. Anyone have any hard evidence on the correlation between top-ticket races and turnout?

Regardless, I agree, it’s an unfortunate situation. Now let’s see what we can do with it.

]]> By: Andrea http://rochesterturning.com/2007/07/31/another-candidate-for-county-exec/#comment-51991 Andrea Wed, 01 Aug 2007 15:39:52 +0000 http://rochesterturning.com/2007/07/31/another-candidate-for-county-exec/#comment-51991 Also, what does that article you linked to have to do with voter turnout in off year elections? Quoting someone's opinion is not reading up on the facts. Also, what does that article you linked to have to do with voter turnout in off year elections? Quoting someone’s opinion is not reading up on the facts.

]]> By: Andrea http://rochesterturning.com/2007/07/31/another-candidate-for-county-exec/#comment-51987 Andrea Wed, 01 Aug 2007 15:29:21 +0000 http://rochesterturning.com/2007/07/31/another-candidate-for-county-exec/#comment-51987 You might want to try not to be so rude. You might want to try not to be so rude.

]]> By: Jiminy Bizbo http://rochesterturning.com/2007/07/31/another-candidate-for-county-exec/#comment-51982 Jiminy Bizbo Wed, 01 Aug 2007 15:01:22 +0000 http://rochesterturning.com/2007/07/31/another-candidate-for-county-exec/#comment-51982 Andrea? It's the republicans who don't turn out unless there is a high profile election. Jeesh! You may want to read this and get the facts straight: http://www.whec.com/article/stories/S155276.shtml?cat=703&v=1 Andrea? It’s the republicans who don’t turn out unless there is a high profile election. Jeesh!

You may want to read this and get the facts straight:

http://www.whec.com/article/stories/S155276.shtml?cat=703&v=1

]]> By: Andrea http://rochesterturning.com/2007/07/31/another-candidate-for-county-exec/#comment-51980 Andrea Wed, 01 Aug 2007 14:53:15 +0000 http://rochesterturning.com/2007/07/31/another-candidate-for-county-exec/#comment-51980 I just think it's silly that the Dems are saying that they have chosen not to run a candidate. Fact is, no one wanted to run and they couldn't find anyone. If anyone had stepped forward, we'd have a candidate. So, I don't see this is a "blunder" just an unfortunate sitation we'll have to deal with. Unfortunately, I see it as likely to hurt Democrat turnout more than Republicans. For whatever reason Dems just don't turn out for the local elections unless there's a high profile race going on. I just think it’s silly that the Dems are saying that they have chosen not to run a candidate. Fact is, no one wanted to run and they couldn’t find anyone. If anyone had stepped forward, we’d have a candidate. So, I don’t see this is a “blunder” just an unfortunate sitation we’ll have to deal with.

Unfortunately, I see it as likely to hurt Democrat turnout more than Republicans. For whatever reason Dems just don’t turn out for the local elections unless there’s a high profile race going on.

]]> By: thejobofone http://rochesterturning.com/2007/07/31/another-candidate-for-county-exec/#comment-51842 thejobofone Tue, 31 Jul 2007 22:27:20 +0000 http://rochesterturning.com/2007/07/31/another-candidate-for-county-exec/#comment-51842 With Stainton vision of a train that goes across the county and him pleding to knock on every door in Monroe County, this guy is a shoo in Don't count Stainton out...... With Stainton vision of a train that goes across the county and him pleding to knock on every door in Monroe County, this guy is a shoo in

Don’t count Stainton out……

]]> By: bythepeople http://rochesterturning.com/2007/07/31/another-candidate-for-county-exec/#comment-51829 bythepeople Tue, 31 Jul 2007 20:16:10 +0000 http://rochesterturning.com/2007/07/31/another-candidate-for-county-exec/#comment-51829 hrsstud, that "let's roll up our sleeves and git 'er done" attitude is why you make the big bucks. Seriously, part of the whole "Crashing the Gate" idea is, if you don't like what's going on in your local politics, step up and do what you can to make a difference. You get enough progressives involved, you start to acquire critical mass. The world is run by those who show up. And blog. :-) hrsstud, that “let’s roll up our sleeves and git ‘er done” attitude is why you make the big bucks.

Seriously, part of the whole “Crashing the Gate” idea is, if you don’t like what’s going on in your local politics, step up and do what you can to make a difference. You get enough progressives involved, you start to acquire critical mass.

The world is run by those who show up. And blog. :-)

]]> By: hsrstud http://rochesterturning.com/2007/07/31/another-candidate-for-county-exec/#comment-51821 hsrstud Tue, 31 Jul 2007 19:22:12 +0000 http://rochesterturning.com/2007/07/31/another-candidate-for-county-exec/#comment-51821 Yeah, its not like the Dems can do anything about the situation at this point anyway. I don't think they should endorse a third-party candidate with no elected experience. At the end of the day, everyone can pontificate in different directions about what strategy may have been best, but let's work with what we've got! Hopefully, the Party, and elected Dem officials will put as many resources as possible behind the county leg. candidates. In my mind, we're undoubtedly on the right side of the issues! Yeah, its not like the Dems can do anything about the situation at this point anyway. I don’t think they should endorse a third-party candidate with no elected experience. At the end of the day, everyone can pontificate in different directions about what strategy may have been best, but let’s work with what we’ve got!

Hopefully, the Party, and elected Dem officials will put as many resources as possible behind the county leg. candidates. In my mind, we’re undoubtedly on the right side of the issues!

]]> By: hsrstud http://rochesterturning.com/2007/07/31/another-candidate-for-county-exec/#comment-51820 hsrstud Tue, 31 Jul 2007 19:13:43 +0000 http://rochesterturning.com/2007/07/31/another-candidate-for-county-exec/#comment-51820 Didn't the minarik spin machine suggest this was a good strategy? Honestly, I don't pay much attention to him anyway. This is my own thinking. Didn’t the minarik spin machine suggest this was a good strategy? Honestly, I don’t pay much attention to him anyway. This is my own thinking.

]]> By: bythepeople http://rochesterturning.com/2007/07/31/another-candidate-for-county-exec/#comment-51816 bythepeople Tue, 31 Jul 2007 18:24:21 +0000 http://rochesterturning.com/2007/07/31/another-candidate-for-county-exec/#comment-51816 Good point (assuming that it would be as much of a blowout as that). Good point (assuming that it would be as much of a blowout as that).

]]> By: zubalove http://rochesterturning.com/2007/07/31/another-candidate-for-county-exec/#comment-51814 zubalove Tue, 31 Jul 2007 18:05:49 +0000 http://rochesterturning.com/2007/07/31/another-candidate-for-county-exec/#comment-51814 Again, I want to say, I'm not sold on this being the right decision. I'm just letting it play out before I pass judgment. Can we all agree that if the Democrats have a net gain in County Lej seats, than this strategy wasn't the disaster everyone is claiming it is? Is that fair, and if not, why? All I keep thinking is if we ran someone and they lost 75% to 25% then we've got 4 years of "The people of this county solidly rejected the 'Democrat' (I hate it when they say that) alternative." "They embraced this administration's policies with open arms!". The way we've got it now at least takes the fight to the ground. They cannot say that. We're showing up for fight, but not for an ass kicking. Again, I want to say, I’m not sold on this being the right decision. I’m just letting it play out before I pass judgment.

Can we all agree that if the Democrats have a net gain in County Lej seats, than this strategy wasn’t the disaster everyone is claiming it is? Is that fair, and if not, why?

All I keep thinking is if we ran someone and they lost 75% to 25% then we’ve got 4 years of “The people of this county solidly rejected the ‘Democrat’ (I hate it when they say that) alternative.” “They embraced this administration’s policies with open arms!”. The way we’ve got it now at least takes the fight to the ground. They cannot say that. We’re showing up for fight, but not for an ass kicking.

]]> By: hsrstud http://rochesterturning.com/2007/07/31/another-candidate-for-county-exec/#comment-51809 hsrstud Tue, 31 Jul 2007 17:15:15 +0000 http://rochesterturning.com/2007/07/31/another-candidate-for-county-exec/#comment-51809 Only if Duffy wants to share the wealth. I imagine he will, but I doubt he'll give too much of it away, since he probably has future ambitions, and will need the reserves then. Only if Duffy wants to share the wealth. I imagine he will, but I doubt he’ll give too much of it away, since he probably has future ambitions, and will need the reserves then.

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