Conversations with conservatives round these parts

So, my next door neighbors are Republicans. They’re a great family, our kids play together all the time, and we’ve had some fine chats. About anything but politics. There’s a part of me that likes that– it’s hard to discuss something so touchy when I feel so passionately about it.

See, my passion comes not from the “horse race” aspect of politics (sure, there’s a little interest), but from the understanding that those in political power can do so much to help improve the common good. Everyone needs to do their part, sure, but my leverage is just a leetle bit less than, say, Louise Slaughter’s or Eliot Spitzer’s.

So it makes me nuts when I see folks with a short-term, way inside-the-box thinking get elected. And other well-meaning folks blithely electing them.

So I’m always looking for ways to convey this passion without turning people off. I’m getting better.

For example, the last couple days, the dad next door and I have met at our daughters’ bus stop, and chatted about current events. A couple days ago it was all about recent layoffs, and how the middle class is getting whacked, and he not only agreed but offered that the CEOs make out like bandits no matter what happens to the rank-and-file in the company, or how well the company does.

Yesterday it was all about how warm everything’s getting, and how creepy it is. He chimed in saying that when he grew up (in Henrietta), snow came in November and stayed all winter. He’s pissed off that he can’t take his kids skiing around here for the last couple years.

I want desperately at this point to “close the deal”. How? I know if I say “And that’s why I support Democrats” (or “progressives”) or whatever, he’ll switch off, get defensive, or worse.

stlo7, whose super-power is calmly and joyfully discussing politics with die-hard conservatives– and convincing them!– gave me this advice yesterday:

1. Try to avoid labels (”Dem”, “GOP”, “conservative”, “liberal”). These are so charged with meaning that they get in the way of what you’re really trying to discuss.

2. Discuss it from a “values” perspective. As the Pew “values” poll in 2004, and current polling today shows, beneath the labels the majority of Americans share the same values. And I’m much more likely to get my neighbor to agree that global warming is happening, or corporate capitalism is out of control and screwing the average guy, than I am to get him to fill out a party registration change form on the spot.

3. Stand firm on your values. Don’t let the right-wing talking points shake you from that. Those points have been carefully constructed to box you into a “false choice”, or a defensive position. Do what you can to keep returning to your base values in the conversation.

There was more stuff but he was talking so fast, and I can only do so much drinking from the firehose. But I wanted to get it out here before I forgot.

Anyone else have ideas or stories?

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7 Comments »

Comment by bythepeople
2007-01-06 09:16:07

Another thing that seems to help is talking about these things with a bit of humor. I threw in the joke about corporations only need a CEO to do press conferences, and a CFO to collect the money, and we both laughed. I also told the Scott Hesko story I mentioned a few days ago and we laughed at that too.

A good counterbalance to the deadly seriousness of these issues.

 
Comment by Geoff
2007-01-06 10:25:50

It’s 70 in New York today… how was everyone’s inaugural Global Warming Christmas?

Comment by bythepeople
2007-01-07 07:15:51

Green, warm, and therefore, a little creepy.

Hey, do you guys have a website yet for your “Coalition…” radio show?

 
 
2007-01-06 11:45:15

way inside-the-box

I would describe the national Republican party’s head as way inside something else.ÂÂ And I think locally we’re starting to see many Republican recognize that this is the case.ÂÂ The big story behind the seemingly disappointing local Congressional races is how many Republicans crossed party lines to protest what they rightly see as the hijacking of their party by the extreme right-wing.

Let’s always remember that — many most upstate Republicans have more in common with us than they do with George Bush ideologically.

Comment by bythepeople
2007-01-06 21:04:26

You’re right– that should give us confidence in being strong with our beliefs.

BTW, has anyone analyzed or quantified the amount of crossover votes from Republicans locally?

2007-01-06 22:06:39

I was just thinking we should do that, if possible.

 
 
 
Comment by optimusprime
2007-01-08 00:10:27

Great post. Quick fun read. I wil use it at work today.

 
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