Comments on: House Rules: Fix Country First, Then Be Nice http://rochesterturning.com/2006/12/29/865/ turning the tide upstate Thu, 08 Jan 2009 21:15:13 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.5.1 By: Bill http://rochesterturning.com/2006/12/29/865/#comment-6050 Bill Tue, 02 Jan 2007 18:40:01 +0000 http://rochesterturning.com/2006/12/29/865/#comment-6050 There's a great piece today on tpm muckraker about the plea from House GOP members for a "Minority Bill of Rights" The commentary slams the hypocrisy of their request, especially in light of Haster's refusal to even acknowledge a similar request from Nancy Pelosi in 2004, when he was speaker and she was merely a lowly member of the minority. The article goes on to note that on close review the GOPpers are asking for much more in the way of concessions than Pelosi had requested, and further suggests that under Louise Slaughter the Rules committee will likely reestablish the kind of fair play that Pelosi had sought in '04. I can only imagine how Steve M and the GOP gang in the Leg would react to such a request. Here is the tpm link: http://www.tpmmuckraker.com/archives/002257.php There’s a great piece today on tpm muckraker about the plea from House GOP members for a “Minority Bill of Rights” The commentary slams the hypocrisy of their request, especially in light of Haster’s refusal to even acknowledge a similar request from Nancy Pelosi in 2004, when he was speaker and she was merely a lowly member of the minority. The article goes on to note that on close review the GOPpers are asking for much more in the way of concessions than Pelosi had requested, and further suggests that under Louise Slaughter the Rules committee will likely reestablish the kind of fair play that Pelosi had sought in ‘04. I can only imagine how Steve M and the GOP gang in the Leg would react to such a request. Here is the tpm link: http://www.tpmmuckraker.com/archives/002257.php

]]> By: stlo7 http://rochesterturning.com/2006/12/29/865/#comment-5869 stlo7 Sat, 30 Dec 2006 12:55:55 +0000 http://rochesterturning.com/2006/12/29/865/#comment-5869 How long did it take the media to pick up the narrative that the country needed a direction change? I think they got the only message after the election. Re the noise machine - well, it doesn't matter they are going to say what they are going to say. Truth is, Our side has its own media outlets and they are growing as well. The message is getting out. Still a ways to go but we are making progress and moving in the right direction. How long did it take the media to pick up the narrative that the country needed a direction change? I think they got the only message after the election.

Re the noise machine - well, it doesn’t matter they are going to say what they are going to say. Truth is, Our side has its own media outlets and they are growing as well. The message is getting out. Still a ways to go but we are making progress and moving in the right direction.

]]> By: bythepeople http://rochesterturning.com/2006/12/29/865/#comment-5857 bythepeople Sat, 30 Dec 2006 03:02:23 +0000 http://rochesterturning.com/2006/12/29/865/#comment-5857 Your point is valid-- as long as the media pick up that narrative, and not whatever right-wing talking points they get fed. I could see, instead of "GOP obstructs health care, rollback of tax cuts for the wealthy, etc.", the message being, "Well, these bi-partisan senators (e.g. 20 republicans and Lieberman) proposed these AWESOME bills, and the Dem majority REFUSED to VOTE for them!!! Here to talk about why the Dems hate america so f-ing much, is our bi-partisan panel of Bill O'Reilly and Rush Limbaugh. Gentlemen, welcome..." Your point is valid– as long as the media pick up that narrative, and not whatever right-wing talking points they get fed. I could see, instead of “GOP obstructs health care, rollback of tax cuts for the wealthy, etc.”, the message being, “Well, these bi-partisan senators (e.g. 20 republicans and Lieberman) proposed these AWESOME bills, and the Dem majority REFUSED to VOTE for them!!! Here to talk about why the Dems hate america so f-ing much, is our bi-partisan panel of Bill O’Reilly and Rush Limbaugh. Gentlemen, welcome…”

]]> By: stlo7 http://rochesterturning.com/2006/12/29/865/#comment-5851 stlo7 Sat, 30 Dec 2006 01:42:22 +0000 http://rochesterturning.com/2006/12/29/865/#comment-5851 I'm not sure it will matter. Let the Republicans obstruct health care, the roll back of tax cuts for the wealthy, minimum wage increase or any of the other intitatives the Dems have promised. The Dems will have a stronger, more compelling story to tell the American people in 2007 and subsquently in 2008. Truth is for all the victories in November, the Democratic majority is one aneurism or Lieberman appointment to a cabinent position away from losing the Senate. Yes, 15 seats is a nice majority in the House but it doesn't overrde a veto from the Whitehouse. What conrol of the Senate and House do is control investigations which lead to additional information that sheds light on how corporate centric the existing administration and Republican party has been at the expense of the American people. I’m not sure it will matter. Let the Republicans obstruct health care, the roll back of tax cuts for the wealthy, minimum wage increase or any of the other intitatives the Dems have promised.

The Dems will have a stronger, more compelling story to tell the American people in 2007 and subsquently in 2008.

Truth is for all the victories in November, the Democratic majority is one aneurism or Lieberman appointment to a cabinent position away from losing the Senate. Yes, 15 seats is a nice majority in the House but it doesn’t overrde a veto from the Whitehouse.

What conrol of the Senate and House do is control investigations which lead to additional information that sheds light on how corporate centric the existing administration and Republican party has been at the expense of the American people.

]]> By: bythepeople http://rochesterturning.com/2006/12/29/865/#comment-5839 bythepeople Fri, 29 Dec 2006 21:10:24 +0000 http://rochesterturning.com/2006/12/29/865/#comment-5839 Oh, and does this part sound familiar to anyone? <blockquote>Republicans see the ability to force tough votes — which they avoided in the majority by stifling Democratic alternatives</blockquote> *cough* Monroe County Leg *cough* Oh, and does this part sound familiar to anyone?

Republicans see the ability to force tough votes — which they avoided in the majority by stifling Democratic alternatives

*cough* Monroe County Leg *cough*

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