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	<title>Comments on: Please God, don&#8217;t let this happen</title>
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		<title>By: Exile on Ericsson St.</title>
		<link>http://rochesterturning.com/2006/11/28/please-god-dont-let-this-happen/#comment-4026</link>
		<dc:creator>Exile on Ericsson St.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 02 Dec 2006 00:21:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>First off, Harry -- don't you think that smart ass tone impresses us?  Where did you hear that about Robert Kennedy -- Lonsberry, Limbaugh, or Free Republic?

Second -- I'm not a big fan of Robert Kennedy.  I find his advocacy of the bogus vaccination/autimism link to be irresponsible at best.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>First off, Harry &#8212; don&#8217;t you think that smart ass tone impresses us?  Where did you hear that about Robert Kennedy &#8212; Lonsberry, Limbaugh, or Free Republic?</p>
<p>Second &#8212; I&#8217;m not a big fan of Robert Kennedy.  I find his advocacy of the bogus vaccination/autimism link to be irresponsible at best.</p>
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		<title>By: Harold Springair</title>
		<link>http://rochesterturning.com/2006/11/28/please-god-dont-let-this-happen/#comment-4024</link>
		<dc:creator>Harold Springair</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 01 Dec 2006 22:36:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Robert F. Kennedy jr. has been on the road for about 3 years now, at a regular speaking fee of $25,000 per speech, doing over 200 speeches per year, and he is viewed as a culture hero for his self enrichment. Is it that Rudy Giuliani gets larger fees that makes his professional motivational career somehow reprehensible to you--- or is it just that he is a Republican?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Robert F. Kennedy jr. has been on the road for about 3 years now, at a regular speaking fee of $25,000 per speech, doing over 200 speeches per year, and he is viewed as a culture hero for his self enrichment. Is it that Rudy Giuliani gets larger fees that makes his professional motivational career somehow reprehensible to you&#8212; or is it just that he is a Republican?</p>
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		<title>By: The DragonFlyEye.Net Blog</title>
		<link>http://rochesterturning.com/2006/11/28/please-god-dont-let-this-happen/#comment-3945</link>
		<dc:creator>The DragonFlyEye.Net Blog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Nov 2006 04:38:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;The Man, The Plan or the Canal?...&lt;/strong&gt;

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>The Man, The Plan or the Canal?&#8230;</strong></p>
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		<title>By: DragonFlyEye</title>
		<link>http://rochesterturning.com/2006/11/28/please-god-dont-let-this-happen/#comment-3943</link>
		<dc:creator>DragonFlyEye</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Nov 2006 04:05:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well, heck!  If'n we're picking Republican horses, I think Romney's got a better shot than Giuliani or McCain.  People play the "Mormon" card up waaaaaay more than it's really worth: there is, in fact, quite a cozy relationship between senior members of the SBC and the Mormon Church since their political ends are quite similar.  This is one area that American Theocracy covered quite well.

And the thing is: Social Conservatives are actually quite willing to make many sacrifices and compromises as long as they're allowed to think they're on the way to Holy War.

I think I've talked about this in the past ~ and if not, perhaps I will soon ~ but it seems to me that what matters is not the man but the direction the Republicans choose.  In truth, the last three Republican presidents have prove this to be a Republican truth in all elections.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, heck!  If&#8217;n we&#8217;re picking Republican horses, I think Romney&#8217;s got a better shot than Giuliani or McCain.  People play the &#8220;Mormon&#8221; card up waaaaaay more than it&#8217;s really worth: there is, in fact, quite a cozy relationship between senior members of the SBC and the Mormon Church since their political ends are quite similar.  This is one area that American Theocracy covered quite well.</p>
<p>And the thing is: Social Conservatives are actually quite willing to make many sacrifices and compromises as long as they&#8217;re allowed to think they&#8217;re on the way to Holy War.</p>
<p>I think I&#8217;ve talked about this in the past ~ and if not, perhaps I will soon ~ but it seems to me that what matters is not the man but the direction the Republicans choose.  In truth, the last three Republican presidents have prove this to be a Republican truth in all elections.</p>
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		<title>By: rochesterturning.com: turning the tide upstate</title>
		<link>http://rochesterturning.com/2006/11/28/please-god-dont-let-this-happen/#comment-3936</link>
		<dc:creator>rochesterturning.com: turning the tide upstate</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Nov 2006 18:56:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] I certainly don&#8217;t mean to start talking about the 2008 presidential campaign all the time &#8212; after all, this is a local blog and 08 is 2 years away &#8212; but I just thought I&#8217;d follow up on our earlier post about the nightmare scenario of Hillary running against Giuliani. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] I certainly don&#8217;t mean to start talking about the 2008 presidential campaign all the time &#8212; after all, this is a local blog and 08 is 2 years away &#8212; but I just thought I&#8217;d follow up on our earlier post about the nightmare scenario of Hillary running against Giuliani. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: nequals1</title>
		<link>http://rochesterturning.com/2006/11/28/please-god-dont-let-this-happen/#comment-3916</link>
		<dc:creator>nequals1</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Nov 2006 13:31:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don't think Hillary will get the nomination.  First, I don't think she's that popular among Democrats -- at least, not the Democrats I know (which might be a biased sample).  Second, Democrats are pragmatic. Hillary is loathed by right wingers and even many moderates. Hard to imagine that she can win states that Gore or Kerry couldn't.

McCain is definitely the guy to worry about. As long as the press continues to worship him, he's going to be tough to beat</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t think Hillary will get the nomination.  First, I don&#8217;t think she&#8217;s that popular among Democrats &#8212; at least, not the Democrats I know (which might be a biased sample).  Second, Democrats are pragmatic. Hillary is loathed by right wingers and even many moderates. Hard to imagine that she can win states that Gore or Kerry couldn&#8217;t.</p>
<p>McCain is definitely the guy to worry about. As long as the press continues to worship him, he&#8217;s going to be tough to beat</p>
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		<title>By: J</title>
		<link>http://rochesterturning.com/2006/11/28/please-god-dont-let-this-happen/#comment-3908</link>
		<dc:creator>J</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Nov 2006 21:29:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Guiliani might appeal to the same group of people who still believe we found WMD's and live and die by Fox News.  As insane as that is, there are still a number of people who feel that way, and I think they will embrace Guiliani.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Guiliani might appeal to the same group of people who still believe we found WMD&#8217;s and live and die by Fox News.  As insane as that is, there are still a number of people who feel that way, and I think they will embrace Guiliani.</p>
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		<title>By: james</title>
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		<dc:creator>james</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Nov 2006 20:05:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yeah, I agree with bythepeople, McCain is the real risk, as he's still painted as a moderate when he's really quite conservative.  Guiliani has too many skeletons in the closet that will come out, I think.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yeah, I agree with bythepeople, McCain is the real risk, as he&#8217;s still painted as a moderate when he&#8217;s really quite conservative.  Guiliani has too many skeletons in the closet that will come out, I think.</p>
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		<title>By: bythepeople</title>
		<link>http://rochesterturning.com/2006/11/28/please-god-dont-let-this-happen/#comment-3902</link>
		<dc:creator>bythepeople</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Nov 2006 19:29:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Guiliani won't make it through the GOP primary, IMO.  Too liberal for today's hijacked Republican party.  Not that we still shouldn't keep an eye on him, for all the good reasons you mention.

I'm more concerned about McCain, who has so far retained most of his lustre, despite carrying more water for Bush &#038; his failed policies than those animated brooms The Sorcerer's Apprentice conjured up.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Guiliani won&#8217;t make it through the GOP primary, IMO.  Too liberal for today&#8217;s hijacked Republican party.  Not that we still shouldn&#8217;t keep an eye on him, for all the good reasons you mention.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m more concerned about McCain, who has so far retained most of his lustre, despite carrying more water for Bush &#038; his failed policies than those animated brooms The Sorcerer&#8217;s Apprentice conjured up.</p>
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